spousal sponsorship

richard

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in the united states because i dont know about other countries theres something called a greencard lottery, have you ever heard of it?????? i dont know if in canada it might be the same or not??????? do you think that canada is more strict than the united states when it comes to giving permanent residency or does it depend on a case by case basis??????? so then what youre saying is that the best qualified candidates have a much better chance of obtaing PR then vs. ones that arent that qualified or prepared with an education then? i only ask because i did a bit of research and was actually shocked to find out that such a small percentage of people get approved for the business investor startup category! its where someone has to secure like 200k from a company and get sponsored by them at the same time. some companies replied back and said that they felt it was so obvious that some people would do a startup company just to get PR status! why do you think that they would say something like that in the first place???? rsvp.
 

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in the united states because i dont know about other countries theres something called a greencard lottery, have you ever heard of it?????? i dont know if in canada it might be the same or not?
Canada is not the same. We do not have a PR Card lottery. Express Entry is a bit of a lottery but I do not know if it works in remotely the same way. And you have to be a skilled worker to qualify.

do you think that canada is more strict than the united states when it comes to giving permanent residency or does it depend on a case by case basis?
I have no idea, but I assume we are stricter. We let in 250,000 new PRs per year. I think that is substantially less than the US, but I could be wrong.

so then what youre saying is that the best qualified candidates have a much better chance of obtaing PR then vs. ones that arent that qualified or prepared with an education then?
For Express Entry (which is not the only immigration program), it's supposed to be about merit.

I don't believe you qualify for the startup visa. Do you?
 

richard

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this is what i mean? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diversity_Immigrant_Visa its not that i dont qualify for the startup company visa program its that the sponsor has a bunch of bullshit that they only want ideas that suits them, does this make sense? you know how at harvard, oxford, yale, cambridge, ect.... in the beginning theres like a ton of people starting off in medical school but in the end not everyone makes it! a lot of people wash out gradually. even if my criminal rehabilitation application is approved and i somehow qualify for PR, how do i know that i might not have to compete against other people in a pool of people of course to see who truly will win PR in the end????????????????? im trying to show you the bigger picture here. rsvp.
 

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Canada has nothing like a "diversity immigrant visa." Sorry.

What are you asking exactly? Everyone "competes." Only certain applications will be accepted. Time is a major factor (when you submit your application, if there's an annual quota, for example) but the biggest factors are a) do you actually qualify (i.e. meet the requirements)? and b) is the application truthful and accurate?
 

richard

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lets say for a moment that the criminal rehabilitation application gets approved. now lets say that i qualify under some category. even under the best of circumstances by the time the second step has already been reached, do you think that by then that i will actually compete with other people for PR or not in your opinion? how can i improve my chances of beating other people who would also qualify under the same category just for the sake of argument???? you say that when one falls under some category that one actually qualifies, but what about other people who want PR too then????????? this is what im driving at here. rsvp.
 

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even under the best of circumstances by the time the second step has already been reached, do you think that by then that i will actually compete with other people for PR or not in your opinion?
This depends on the category. For some, you either qualify or you don't. For others, it is a bit of a competition (some programs have quotas, but then it is about the timing and accuracy of the application).

how can i improve my chances of beating other people who would also qualify under the same category just for the sake of argument?
Submit the best application possible. Submit it as early as possible (if there's a time limit or quota).

you say that when one falls under some category that one actually qualifies, but what about other people who want PR too then?????????
I don't understand what you mean.
 

richard

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if i didnt get deported from the united states and wanted to immigrate to canada but just being a u.s. legal permanent resident, would it have been easier???????? rsvp.
 

richard

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why is it that under the startup business category its incredibly difficult to qualify? why is it that not too many businesses are approved and which ones are? rsvp.
 

richard

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what do you think is the difference between a criminal rehabilitation application that does get approved and one that doesnt?????????? what do you really think is convinces a border officer if someone is truly rehabilitated?????????? is it notarized letters or something? what is the key factor that determines whether this application gets approved or not??? or would only a lawyer know this???? rsvp
 

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what do you think is the difference between a criminal rehabilitation application that does get approved and one that doesnt?
That's a question for your representative, if you ever hire one.

what do you really think is convinces a border officer if someone is truly rehabilitated?????????? is it notarized letters or something? what is the key factor that determines whether this application gets approved or not??? or would only a lawyer know this?
I have already gone over this with you. You need to submit a letter from you, you need to submit letters from people who know you, you need to submit evidence of rehabilitation (lack of new charges, evidence of compliance with sentencing, particular things you have undertaken to prove you are rehabilitated, etc).
 

richard

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what about someone who can prove regret and remorse for what they did but in a written statement from mental health specialists? if you were a border officer, how would you make your decision whether or not to approve such an application? what would be the turning point or key moment in history so to speak just for the sake of argument at which you or a border officer would be truly convinced that rehabilitation had really taken place? just for the sake of argument the tide turned...... do you think that this is the hardest part to prove? also the hardest part out of everything to do to obtain PR? rsvp
 

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"Proving" remorse and regret is rather hard, but you can attempt to show it, through letters from specialists, among other things.

I cannot put myself in the place of a CBSA officer. I have told you that before.
 

richard

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when you said letters from people who know me do relatives count or not? or people who are not related to me? rsvp
 

Riley Haas

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Letters from relatives, coworkers, bosses, professionals who might have insight into your case...all of these things could be useful.
 

richard

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ok let me ask you this then. do you remember that blackbook that i showed you regarding spousal sponsorship and how border officers use their discretionary power to decide whether a marriage is legit or not? that blackbook was like an insiders secret even though it didnt reveal all secrets as to how and what border officers use to make their final decisions. lets assume for a moment that you have a friend who happens to be a border officer or better yet that we have a friend who happens to be a border officer. what we would do is ask him or her how they would make their decision as far as someone who will submit a criminal rehabilitation application. i guess what im driving at here is like we would be cheating on an exam. you basically have told me is do the best that you can and see what happens, right? but if we knew everything or had some kind of special hindsight we wouldnt need to guess because we would know something that the border officer doesnt and that is we have the same exact knowledge that they would have as far as making their final decision. its like having the answers to a final exam when youre actually taking that exam. do you think that if this were possible it might give us the edge as far as incrementing our chances of obtaining PR????????????? i just wanna know your honest opinion on this. if we knew what they were thinking, do you think we would know ahead of time what to do to really increase our chances of obtaining PR or not?????????????? im not trying to get on your case but i just feel that maybe this would be a learning experience for the both of us! you never know! you wanna know why i ask this KEY question? ok, ill tell you why. when a u.s. legal resident gets deported for an aggravated felony approximately 95% of these cases are lost! i looked up this information and it seems that the vast majority of these cases are eventually lost and only like 5% are won! very slim chances of winning such a case huh? well its actually pretty relevant because i would like to have an idea or better yet be able to look up statistics similar to this regarding information for people who were deported from the u.s. with felonies related to drugs and see what percentage of them were able to submit a criminal rehabilitation application and actually got approved! given this rare look i can pretty much determine assuming that such information could be found online if my chances are even decent or fair to say the least assuming of course we could even say that! i want to be a more educated consumer before making any final decisions on my end and also be intelligent like a politician who has to chose his or her wise words before making a very public speech! i honestly dont know if even such information is online but if it is it would sure help me out to make a more informed decision. i know that youre doing youre best but i dont think that i am and thats frustrating! once when living in california and i couldnt pass the theoretical drivers exam i paid someone to give me the answers so when i actually took it i could look at the answers and guess what it helped me get my drivers license! this is the kind of hindsight that i would want to have so i can make more intelligent choices/decisions and be careful how im gonna go about doing this to increase my chances of PR. I WANNA DO EVERYTHING HUMANLY POSSIBLE to obtain PR but what good would that do if i dont know what is the percentage of criminal rehabilitation applications that actually get approved? if lets say only like 30% get approved just for the sake of argument i might as well just give up! if you were in my shoes and was convicted of an aggravated felony would you fight a case if you knew that 95% of cases were eventually lost???????????? probably not. thats being intelligent. i just dont want to waste my time like when my family hired an immigration lawyer who told us that we had like an 80% chance of beating that aggravated felony case when it was all b.s. you know what i mean???????????? im trying to be as honest with you as possible........................... what would be the point of lying? rsvp
 

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This is the 41st time you've asked question here and most of them are variations on the same theme. I have answered them to the best of my ability. Rewriting your question over and over again is not going to entice me into giving you a different answer.

ok let me ask you this then. do you remember that blackbook that i showed you regarding spousal sponsorship and how border officers use their discretionary power to decide whether a marriage is legit or not? that blackbook was like an insiders secret even though it didnt reveal all secrets as to how and what border officers use to make their final decisions.
It was not a "black book." It was publicly available. I believe it was a study by a professor, was it not? Nothing in there was some secret.

lets assume for a moment that you have a friend who happens to be a border officer or better yet that we have a friend who happens to be a border officer. what we would do is ask him or her how they would make their decision as far as someone who will submit a criminal rehabilitation application. i guess what im driving at here is like we would be cheating on an exam.
Let's not assume that. I do know people who are border guards. I will not be asking them this, however. It would not be "cheating on an exam." The manual for how they make decisions is publicly available online. I believe I linked to it in an earlier post.

you basically have told me is do the best that you can and see what happens, right? but if we knew everything or had some kind of special hindsight we wouldnt need to guess because we would know something that the border officer doesnt and that is we have the same exact knowledge that they would have as far as making their final decision. its like having the answers to a final exam when youre actually taking that exam. do you think that if this were possible it might give us the edge as far as incrementing our chances of obtaining PR?
Again, your criminal rehab application does not have anything to do with your PR application. They are separate. You need to get the criminal rehab done before you apply for PR (or wait until you're deemed rehabilitated), but the two are otherwise unrelated. If you get your criminal rehab but don't qualify for PR, you will not get PR. End of story.

well its actually pretty relevant because i would like to have an idea or better yet be able to look up statistics similar to this regarding information for people who were deported from the u.s. with felonies related to drugs and see what percentage of them were able to submit a criminal rehabilitation application and actually got approved! given this rare look i can pretty much determine assuming that such information could be found online if my chances are even decent or fair to say the least assuming of course we could even say that! i want to be a more educated consumer before making any final decisions on my end and also be intelligent like a politician who has to chose his or her wise words before making a very public speech! i honestly dont know if even such information is online but if it is it would sure help me out to make a more informed decision.
If this information is tracked - and I don't know that it is or was - the previous federal government of Canada reduced the stats budget and resources for every branch of government. If it was tracked, it likely wasn't tracked within the last 2-5 years. It may be tracked again, as we just had an election, but I don't know that this information will be made public.

All of this is moot anyway, since you still have to wait for a long time to apply for rehabilitation, no?
 

richard

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i wanna say that i do REGRET what i did that got me deported. you said that proving that one has regret or remorse is difficult. is it difficult or impossible to prove then? how can i prove that i truly have regret and remorse for what i did???????????? i think that i need to see a mental health specialist to truly prove that it affected me emotionally not only making the mistake but also the deportation! how would a border officer see this that i had to seek professional mental help to really prove remorse/regret apart from the rehabilitation? would i need like an affidavit to really prove that i regret what i did? would an affidavit pertaining to this really prove regret/remorse apart from the rehabilitation or prove that the individual is truly rehabilitated if its coming from mental health specialists? something else that i wanna ask you is this i got convicted in december 2009 in a texas state courthouse. an immigration lawyer told me that i have to wait 10 years plus another 4 years because of the 4 year probation sentence in writing. why the extra 4 years if you dont mind me asking? why? rsvp.
 
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